IIT Bhubaneswar – Why pick it over IIT Patna, IIT Gandhinagar, IIT Rajasthan, IIT Hyderabad and IIT Punjab : Part II

June 8th, 2008

The following is from our page http://iitbbsr.orissalinks.com/future.htm, where we look at factors that will shape the future of IIT Bhubaneswar.

IIT Bhubaneswar will be mentored by IIT Kharagpur for three years. Initial information suggests that the first year of classes will be held in IIT Kharagpur and the students will stay with the IIT Kharagpur students in one of the hostels. Most likely they will stay in the MMM Hall.

After one year, when they move to Bhubaneswar they will be able to bring with them some of the culture and traditions of IIT Kharagpur and the student  life there. Some highlights of those are : (i) Illumination and Rangoli (ii)  Spring Fest  (iii)  Techno-management festival (iv)  Hall day (v) Hostel libraries  (vi) Wing culture (vii) General championship (viii) Hall and Gymkhanna elections (ix) Hall GBMs and budgets and their spending (x) Scholars Avenue fortnightly newspaper (xi) Equal relationship between juniors and seniors – no calling seniors as Sir, bhai, bhaiyya, dada, etc.

 

The most important of these culture and traditions is the equal relationship between students at IIT Kharagpur. There every student is equal and no student fears another student. There are no big bosses or connected students in the campus who are feared by other students. Juniors call seniors by the same name that others call them; with no addition of a "bhaiyya" or "Sir." There are no physical fights in the campus. There are rivalries though; often centered around sports and cultural competitions; but NO physical fights.

This is in contrast to most other college campuses in India where students defer to their seniors and there are some students in campus to whom every body is afraid of. Thus it is great that the first batch of IIT Bhubaneswar students will spend a year in IIT Kharagpur and bring back with them the fear-free non-violent culture of the IIT Kharagpur campus.

With Professor Damodar Acharya at the helm of IIT Kharagpur, the mentoring of IIT Bhubaneswar is in good hands. Prior to being the director of IIT Kharagpur, Professor Acharya was the AICTE Chairman in Delhi and prior to that the vice-Chancellor of Biju Patnaik University of Technology, then operating from Bhubaneswar. Thus one can infer that he is well known and well connected in both Bhubaneswar and Delhi circles and this is a big advantage. For example, his suggestion that the Orissa government allocate more than the 500 acres, which the central government required, was received warmly and the Orissa government is indeed looking for a land of at least 1000 acres for IIT Bhubaneswar. So far, none of the other new IITs are thinking along those lines. Having extra land is very important as it will allow further growth of the IITs, which are being built for decades if not centuries to come. Decades later, IIT Bhubaneswar will have Prof. Acharya to thank for this foresight.

IIT Kharagpur, only 321 kms and 4.5-5hrs away from Bhubaneswar, and with 30+ trains, has many other ties with Bhubaneswar and Orissa. It has an extension center in Bhubaneswar from where it offers a PG Diploma in Information Technology and a 1.5-year part-time Diploma in intellectual property law. IIT Kharagpur professors have signed an MOU to develop a perspective plan of the Bhubaneswar metroplex and are involved in many other projects in Orissa. More than 50 faculty at IIT Kharagpur, including the Director and at least two Deans, are natives of Orissa. Thus faculty and leadership of IIT Kharagpur are familiar with Bhubaneswar and Orissa and their aspirations and are in a good position to mentor IIT Bhubaneswar. (There are many Orissa origin faculty at the various IITs and IISc who may also help IIT Bhubaneswar.)

Looking forward to the future IIT Bhubaneswar’s progress will be partly shaped by its competition and collaboration with three other marquee universities and institutions that are being established in the Bhubaneswar area.

NISER is a DAE (Department of Atomic Energy) funded institute that is admitting its second batch of students this year in 2008. The Prime Minister Dr. Mammohan Singh, while announcing the setting up of NISER said: "NISER will be at par with the IISER being established in other places but will operate under the umbrella of DAE. … When completed, I am confident that the National Institute of Science Education and Research will become a Mecca for science just as TIFR and IISc are today." Incidentally, NISER has a higher initial budget of 823.19 crores than the 500 crore budget of each of the IISERs, the 760 crore budget of each of the new IITs and the 720 crore budget of each of the WCCUs. With interdisciplinary research becoming key to solve complex grand challenges, like IISc, NISER will soon branch out to interdisciplinary centers and technological departments. With IITs also having scientific disciplines and interdisciplinary centers, down the road, IIT Bhubaneswar and NISER Bhubaneswar are expected to collaborate and compete with each other. This will drive both to excellence.

 

Recently, establishment of 14 world class central universities were announced. One of those will be in Bhubaneswar. These world class universities will have a school of medicine, and are expected to have a school of science, a school of engineering, a school of management as well as a school of liberal arts. It is said that these world class universities will be nurtured to compete with Harvard and Cambridge Universities. If that happens, the WCCU in Bhubaneswar will definitely collaborate and compete with IIT Bhubaneswar and NISER Bhubaneswar and this will drive all of them to excellence.

As of now Bhubaneswar is the only metropolitan area of the country which will have a science institute (NISER), an IIT and a WCCU. The metro areas that will have two of them are: Kolkata (an IISER and a WCCU), Pune (an IISER and a WCCU), Ahmedabad-Gandhinagar (an IIT and a WCCU), Chandigarh (an IISER and an IIT), Delhi-NOIDA (an IIT and a WCCU), Patna (an IIT and a WCCU), Guwahati (an IIT and a WCCU) and Bhopal (an IISER and a WCCU). Along with some of these metro areas Bhubaneswar will also have an AIIMS (like institute) with a budget of 332 crores as well as a IIIT.

The above is a projection to the future. But the ground reality is that it will take time for a new IIT in Bhubaneswar to catch up with the existing IITs in many respects. The existing IITs not only have an existing infrastructure and history, but also an alumni base that contributes to their growth and development. Same with respect to NISER and the well established IISc Bangalore. However, Bhubaneswar has one more trump card: the Vedanta University, that is coming up in Puri, about 40 kms and less than an hour from the outer edges of Bhubaneswar.

Vedanta University is a brainchild of industrialist Anil Agarwal, who has pledged a $1 Billion (i.e., Rs. 4,000 crores) towards it and envisions a budget of $3 Billion (i.e., Rs 12,000 crores) in making that university. The budget of this university is illuminating in its scale in that just the pledged 4,000 crores is close to the sum of the budget of two new IITs (760*2 = 1520 crores), a new IISER (500 crores), two new WCCUs (720*2=1440 crores), a new AIIMS (332 crores), and a new IIM (210.25 crores). However, the aim of the Vedanta University is to be like Stanford University and have a similar impact. In 2007, Stanford had an operating expense of $2.9 billion, an operating revenue of $3.2 billion, endowment of $17.2 billion and total asset of $29.3 billion. Hence, the 4,000 crores pledge by Anil Agarwal is only the cost of the initial phases of the Vedanta University and despite the cost differential between the US and India, to be comparable with Stanford, Vedanta University needs the 12,000 crores and perhaps more. However, the Anil Agarwal foundation has the foresight to acquire 6000+ acres of land (comparable to Stanford University’s 8180 acres) and build a city of 500,000 around the University with research parks similar to Stanford Research Park. The real estate holdings of the planned city will be able to provide Vedanta University with a sizeable endowment to realistically aim to become the Stanford of India. In the following interview of Anil Agarwal by a New York area PBS station, one can hear from the horse’s mouth about his vision for Vedanta University (starting at 3:20).

 

 

There is a high possibility that Vedanta University will not only play a significant role in Bhubaneswar and Orissa, but in all of India. Its private financing, sound financial model, lofty goals and an unprecedented donation of $1 billion, makes it likely to actually be able to hire top professors and nobel laureates, have graduate programs that rank high at the international level and produce graduates that will populate the premiere institutions and universities of India. This is relevant to the development of IIT Bhubaneswar in particular and all the IITs in general because there is a severe shortage of good academics to fill all the available positions in the IITs (and the WCCUs). In this the proximity of IIT Bhubaneswar to Vedanta University would put it at an advantage as many graduates of the later may prefer to remain in the area and maintain collaboration with their mentors and many may join IIT Bhubaneswar just to be close to Vedanta University.

Thus, with competition from, collaboration with, and synergies associated with NISER, WCCU and Vedanta University, IIT Bhubaneswar has a chance to excel and become one of the top IITs in the country. And if (a big if, but not impossible) all these institutes achieve their stated goals, then the Bhubaneswar-Puri area will have equivalents of a Stanford (Vedanta University), MIT (IIT Bhubaneswar), Berkeley (WCCU Bhubaneswar) and CalTech (NISER Bhubaneswar).

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11 Writeup

  • 1. rakesh  |  June 8th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    what will be the ranking of iit-o over newly iit colleges if it did not start in kharagpur as the new news has came that it is goin to start in CET,bhubaneswar..

  • 2. Chitta Baral  |  June 8th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    I read those news. I will wait for a few days for things to settle. The fact that the JEE brochure says that the first year classes will be in Kharagpur means that it has a higher probability of happening. Prof Acharya, the director of IIT KGP and IIT BBSR, is out of town for a few days. Things will be sorted out when he gets back.

  • 3. abhijit das  |  June 8th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Sir,
    IIT-O is going to be based out from CET-BHUBANESWAR as per the recent news, though the decision is still under review. As students of the esteemed institute, we feel it a honour to welcome the students of IIT-O. CET has a legacy of 25 yrs of excellence with a ever-active students society.The culture and tradition of the students of CET is second to no-other institute in engineering domain in Orissa. IIT-O is a landmark initiative of govt of india & CETians will uphold the faith of the government if CET is given the chance.

    Abhijit
    Final yr,Elect.

  • 4. Chitta Baral  |  June 8th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    The first batch student need to know first hand what an IIT is. Without any offense to CET, if the first batch classes are held in CET, then the IIt students will never know what an established IIt is like.

    A possible solution is to have the first batch in Kharagpur and after a year they may move to CET. That way they know what an existing IIT is and also that gives a years time for CET to prepare to host the IIT students.

  • 5. R. K. Ghosh  |  June 9th, 2008 at 9:48 am

    While I partly agree with Dr. Baral, I think starting with a separate identity is very important. I don’t think IIT-O students will be treated like equals at IIT KGP. This is simply not possible. In IITK where IIT-R students are going to spend 1st two years, dorms are being set up by converting staff quarters. The theory classes for IIT-R will be held in morning and practicals in the evening. So best slots are reserved for IITK students. There is no possibility of treating the students of another IIT as equals. IIT K classes were held in HBTI when it started, but it had separate set of teachers. Only infrastructure of HBTI was used. Similarly, IIT-G started with rented class rooms from Institution of Engineers in Guwahati. Therefore, I think IIT-O can perhaps use KIIT or CET infrastructure for holding the classes. However, the teachers should be picked by IIT KGP rather deputed from IIT-KGP to ensure the standards. In initial years if the students get even indirectly involved in process of building , their feeling towards the IIT-O will be different. I think this could be better approach.

  • 6. abhijit das  |  June 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    I agree with Mr. Ghosh. I also feel that the simultaneous batch students at IITs might not be treated at par as there lies always a feeling of animosity between two institutes. As suggested by Mr. Ghosh, it would be a better proposition as to depute teachers from IIT and use the infrastucture of CET for initial IIT-O students. and also IIt-O would rightly function from Orissa , the motive for which it was setup.
    Abhijit

  • 7. Chitta Baral  |  June 9th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    I now think that it is a needless controversy. The IIT JEE information page at http://www.jee.iitb.ac.in/newiit.html (and other locations at other IIT) says the following:

    “IIT Bhuvaneswar is one amongst the new IITs proposed by Ministry of Human Resources Development, Govt. of India. Its location will be intimated in due course and the academic programme will start from 24 July 2008 in the IIT Kharagpur campus. After completion of first year in IIT Kharagpur, the students will be shifted to new location where IIT Bhuvaneswar will be established. The first year fee structure will be same as that of IIT Kharagpur.”

    So most likely that is what is going to happen.

    So the plans should be made for the second year; and CET could be a great location then. It will also be a win-win situation. Appropriate infrastructure can be prepared in CET during the next year. When the IIT students would leave in 2-3 years CET will get those infrastructure.

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    Unlike the arrangement in IIT Kanpur for IIT Rajasthan students, in the first year, the IIT Bhubaneswar students will be staying with the IIT Kharagpur students in their Halls (hostels).

  • 8. L N Das  |  December 31st, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    IIT Bhubaneswr detail architecture and future maintenance energy resources plan to be prepapred with thoughts from experienced professionals/

  • 9. L N Das  |  December 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    IIT kharagpur passout scholars yet to solve electric energy resource managing infrastructures difficulties. Professor Chitta Baral argument is valid.

  • 10. V  |  November 9th, 2009 at 6:11 am

    This article seems to be too much hyped. Looking at the quality (and blanket over recruitment process) of recruits at the NIISER, I fail to understand how can it become a mecca of Science like TIFR or IISc. Has the author of this article looked at the profiles of people getting recruited at the IISERs? Money alone does not make science!! I am very much aware of what goes on in BARC in Biological sciences in terms of publication? Just opening shops like NISER by DAE is not going to make them TIFR (or IISc).

  • 11. animesh IITP  |  December 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Let me tell u guys thre is notning like choosing som particular new iit over new iits.Actually every new iit is going thro same problems…. viz …….infrastructure otherwise all r equal. And evry one is taking the best possible feature of its mentor iit,which will really work in a long run.


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