Odisha HRD

8 Writeup

• 1. Bijoy  |  June 23rd, 2008 at 7:21 pm

  Dear sir,
  I have a very negative point of view about it. Few things are very disturbing in IITs.

  1. Number is not important. Quality is important.

  2. I do not think all of them are regular research scholars. They have battery of off-campus students who pursue phd without any academics in their mind. These phds are old age option for them.

  3. They think after 60, they can encash this phd by getting professor position in private colleges or universities. They want to taste both the world. EXCUSE ME being so negative
  Bye take care

• 2. Trilochan  |  June 23rd, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  I am research scholar of IIT Kharagpur, but I can add at this point that even in IITs all the facilities are not available although number of student increase day by day. So increase in number is not important .

• 3. R. K. Ghosh  |  June 24th, 2008 at 10:39 am

  I think the views expressed are indication of the state of higher technical education in the country. We must realize that IITs did succeed in UG education because of the existence of strong PG programmes. NIITs and other state colleges did not come upto the level of IITs as no PG programme of worth name existed in these places. At Ph. D. level, however, the scenario is very different. From student prospectives, the decision to go for a Ph. D. is intertwined with placement scenarios. A good student particularly in engineering disciplines can get a job without much effort. So, only students who did not get placements to their likings will ever think of doing M. Tech. The story gets repeated after M. Tech too. So the majority of students who register for Ph. D. even at IITs are very average or below average. Of course, there are exceptions. Some good students because of certain peculiar situations do occasionally register for Ph. D. at IITs, and perform very well. Sometime, senior technical staff who being with the system for long, gradually become interested and end up in doing a Ph. D. So, the number may not be as pleasing as they appear. IITB being a metro IIT also may have a fair number of such Ph. D. students drawn up from the pool of technical staff of well companies who have their presence in and around Bombay. The bottom line is the employability after Ph. D and how strongly Ph. D. programme is supported by the MHRD. A full prof at IITs get a pay package of Rs 5.00 lakh annually. Whereas a B. Tech student get average pay package of about Rs 7-8 lakhs. So, I think on both counts namely employability and institutional support for Ph. D., we are far behind the developed nations, China, and even smaller south Asian nations including Pakistan.

• 4. Sanjoy Das  |  June 26th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

  While I agree that there is certainly room for improvement in the quality of Ph.D.s from IITs, I will have to take a viewpoint that is at odds with some of the earlier comments here.

  About a year ago, Duke University conducted an extensive study on engineering & technical education in India, China and the US.

  The study is reported here:
  /www.cggc.duke.edu/pdfs/Gereffi_JEE_Gettingthenumbersright-USChina&India_Jan2008.pdf
  Take a look at Figs. 3 and 4 in the above link. India is lagging substantially in the number of engineering graduates, and even more in the number of Ph.D.s than China and the US.

  The same statistics gets reflected in the number of research papers published by faculty in China, US and India, and in the number of patents filed each year.

  Clearly, expanding our number of Ph.D.s is critically important.

• 5. Pratyusa  |  June 26th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

  I am quite optimistic about the whole scenario. Few years back, it was very hard to justify institutional support/investment in the PhD programs as the numbers were abysmally low, e.g., there was only one CS PhD student when I was in Kanpur. I hope that with increasing enrollment, there will be more investment in genuine research infrastructure which in turn will attract top talent.

  I hear that funding, specially in CS, is not an issue any more. Also, there are many lucrative options after PhD (in CS) with every major research lab opening a center in India. The IITs are hiring young talented professors who are enthusiastic about research. IMO, the environment is much more conducive to research than it was few years back. I am hopeful that it is only a matter of time before India starts producing world class PhDs.

• 6. Pabitra Mohan Khilar  |  June 27th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

  This is a good news that number of Ph.Ds from IIT Bombay is increasing. I hope this will also continue in other IITs. As the IITs are maintaining the desired quality, producing more number of Ph.Ds will help India to compte with developed nations such as USA and UK.

  In my opinion, more engineering students should be motivated towards Ph.d rather than doing their undergraduate/post graduate studies and searching for jobs in the companies. Because Ph.D enables a person to create the knowledge and contribute to the field of reaserch in many possible ways such as industrial applications and academics. Those who have financial constraints, they should do job for some years and again start their Ph.d work acording to the area of interest. This will help them in long run.

• 7. Troz  |  December 26th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

  Wats the higest pay package an engineer can get after completing his M.E from an IIT,in case he has dun his bachelors in other university………plz respond

• 8. krishna oza  |  May 29th, 2012 at 7:10 pm

  what are the placement options in R&D and industry for Phd (CS ) students in IITs and Other good universities like BITS or Thapar University.
  Can Any body Help on that